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		<title>By: maggie supremo</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>maggie supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andrew mcmillen, perhaps we are leading parallel lives and if we were ever to meet in the flesh the beginning and end point of the universe would lie directly between us?</description>
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		<title>By: maggie supremo</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>maggie supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the other major plus in the wikis/etc is that there is a pretty centralised point of information access. not only do you have to FIND websites (usually it is bandname.com but not always) but you have to navigate to the content you want. wikipedia and myspace pose no such issue. you just use the search feature and you have one page of information.

and yeah, i will be keeping my &quot;finger on the pulse&quot; as it were in regards to our advances in music/internet because i think once promotions and marketing practitioners stop getting lost in the devices available to them and instead start USING said devices to their full potential to deliver messages etc then shit will go bananas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the other major plus in the wikis/etc is that there is a pretty centralised point of information access. not only do you have to FIND websites (usually it is bandname.com but not always) but you have to navigate to the content you want. wikipedia and myspace pose no such issue. you just use the search feature and you have one page of information.</p>
<p>and yeah, i will be keeping my &#8220;finger on the pulse&#8221; as it were in regards to our advances in music/internet because i think once promotions and marketing practitioners stop getting lost in the devices available to them and instead start USING said devices to their full potential to deliver messages etc then shit will go bananas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Meg,

This is definitely the most interesting, exciting and ultimately frustrating element of the &#039;ever-changing&#039; music industry for mine and it&#039;s definitely something that is going to separate the &#039;wheat from the chaff&#039; (I can&#039;t believe I actually said that) when it comes to creative marketing of your product. I don&#039;t think we&#039;re ever going to see a hard and fast rule as to how music is purchased/stolen/consumed like we have in the past ever again - it will be dependent on who the demographic the music is focussed at is and how they choose to listen to their music.

I&#039;ve been awake for far too long to offer anything of real substance here, but I think we&#039;re using wikis and the like as opposed to, or - as is more often the case for me personally - as well as &#039;official&#039; promotional material is simply because we&#039;re more likely to get a more three-dimensional view of an artist from something which has been submitted by a passionate nerd rather than a bio combed over countless times by a publicist who is essentially hired to offer a particularly blinkered view of any given act. It&#039;s hardly a groundbreaking theory I know, but I can&#039;t visit your blog without posting a comment - it makes me feel like a stalker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Meg,</p>
<p>This is definitely the most interesting, exciting and ultimately frustrating element of the &#8216;ever-changing&#8217; music industry for mine and it&#8217;s definitely something that is going to separate the &#8216;wheat from the chaff&#8217; (I can&#8217;t believe I actually said that) when it comes to creative marketing of your product. I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re ever going to see a hard and fast rule as to how music is purchased/stolen/consumed like we have in the past ever again &#8211; it will be dependent on who the demographic the music is focussed at is and how they choose to listen to their music.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been awake for far too long to offer anything of real substance here, but I think we&#8217;re using wikis and the like as opposed to, or &#8211; as is more often the case for me personally &#8211; as well as &#8216;official&#8217; promotional material is simply because we&#8217;re more likely to get a more three-dimensional view of an artist from something which has been submitted by a passionate nerd rather than a bio combed over countless times by a publicist who is essentially hired to offer a particularly blinkered view of any given act. It&#8217;s hardly a groundbreaking theory I know, but I can&#8217;t visit your blog without posting a comment &#8211; it makes me feel like a stalker.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McMillen</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s fucking hilarious, because I read this post and responded within the ten minute between-class gap on Monday! Life, how bout it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s fucking hilarious, because I read this post and responded within the ten minute between-class gap on Monday! Life, how bout it.</p>
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		<title>By: maggie supremo</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>maggie supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear All,

I apologise for the rush/poorly-structured nature of these responses. I made the mistake of trying to comment in the ten minutes between lectures, and I am being harassed by these PHILISTINES and their business degrees.

From the front line,
Meg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>I apologise for the rush/poorly-structured nature of these responses. I made the mistake of trying to comment in the ten minutes between lectures, and I am being harassed by these PHILISTINES and their business degrees.</p>
<p>From the front line,<br />
Meg.</p>
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		<title>By: maggie supremo</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>maggie supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, I really haven&#039;t spent much time investigating services at all because I have been acquainting myself with the basic theories and developments up to this point. While this is not necessarily a new interest of mine, it is definitely one I&#039;ve only started pursuing and thinking about to any serious degree in the last month or so. 

I will certainly take a look and report back. 

Feel free to pump me with any other information or thoughts you may have!

If I told you who my lecturer was.. Well, the potential consequences are heinous and unspeakable.

(I had no idea who he was until he gave us his low down ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, I really haven&#8217;t spent much time investigating services at all because I have been acquainting myself with the basic theories and developments up to this point. While this is not necessarily a new interest of mine, it is definitely one I&#8217;ve only started pursuing and thinking about to any serious degree in the last month or so. </p>
<p>I will certainly take a look and report back. </p>
<p>Feel free to pump me with any other information or thoughts you may have!</p>
<p>If I told you who my lecturer was.. Well, the potential consequences are heinous and unspeakable.</p>
<p>(I had no idea who he was until he gave us his low down <img src='http://uberwensch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: maggie supremo</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joel, I appreciate the &quot;ramble&quot; so no apology necessary. Your method for finding new bands is one I also subscribe to. I guess it is not so different from checking bands out based on who they play live shows with. Boutique-type labels, especially &quot;indie&quot; ones, are something I&#039;m very much interested in. Local labels like Mere Noise Records and Spooky Records don&#039;t just promote some sense of community and commonality among like-minded bands, but their specialised skill set seems to just further perpetuate the development of not just the bands in their charge, but those on the periphery as well.

But the combination of bands&#039; MySpace top friend lists and mining record labels is the reason I don&#039;t find myself listening to the radio anymore. \

Can&#039;t say I miss the banter :D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joel, I appreciate the &#8220;ramble&#8221; so no apology necessary. Your method for finding new bands is one I also subscribe to. I guess it is not so different from checking bands out based on who they play live shows with. Boutique-type labels, especially &#8220;indie&#8221; ones, are something I&#8217;m very much interested in. Local labels like Mere Noise Records and Spooky Records don&#8217;t just promote some sense of community and commonality among like-minded bands, but their specialised skill set seems to just further perpetuate the development of not just the bands in their charge, but those on the periphery as well.</p>
<p>But the combination of bands&#8217; MySpace top friend lists and mining record labels is the reason I don&#8217;t find myself listening to the radio anymore. \</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say I miss the banter <img src='http://uberwensch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McMillen</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Meg, and thanks for the response.

Have you spent much time investigating proposed business models for this new music economy? I&#039;ve engaged with one over the last few years - largely related to my university assessment - called &#039;music like water&#039; by a dude called Gerd Leonhard. It&#039;s entirely subscription-based and suggests that music users should be able to be charged a flat monthly fee similar to water and electricity services. Check it out, if you haven&#039;t already, and please post your thoughts.

Who&#039;s your semi-famous lecturer? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Meg, and thanks for the response.</p>
<p>Have you spent much time investigating proposed business models for this new music economy? I&#8217;ve engaged with one over the last few years &#8211; largely related to my university assessment &#8211; called &#8216;music like water&#8217; by a dude called Gerd Leonhard. It&#8217;s entirely subscription-based and suggests that music users should be able to be charged a flat monthly fee similar to water and electricity services. Check it out, if you haven&#8217;t already, and please post your thoughts.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s your semi-famous lecturer? <img src='http://uberwensch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://uberwensch.com/?p=252&#038;cpage=1#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post - I agree whole heartedly  that music is heading towards the arena of  being subscription based.  I find music by looking at allmusic.com which helps me gain a better understanding of the band&#039;s genre and what other bands influenced them.  It&#039;s a great site for understanding the timeline of different genres of who influenced who.  I used to frequent Pitchfork but recently I&#039;ve moved away from the site because it only covers select bands or labels and doesn&#039;t cover a wider breadth of genres that I am seeking.  A new strategy I use is going to the record label of a new band I like (say dungen) and checking out the sounds of the rest of the bands on that label - it&#039;s allowed me to find some new great stuff... anyway sorry to ramble but great post indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post &#8211; I agree whole heartedly  that music is heading towards the arena of  being subscription based.  I find music by looking at allmusic.com which helps me gain a better understanding of the band&#8217;s genre and what other bands influenced them.  It&#8217;s a great site for understanding the timeline of different genres of who influenced who.  I used to frequent Pitchfork but recently I&#8217;ve moved away from the site because it only covers select bands or labels and doesn&#8217;t cover a wider breadth of genres that I am seeking.  A new strategy I use is going to the record label of a new band I like (say dungen) and checking out the sounds of the rest of the bands on that label &#8211; it&#8217;s allowed me to find some new great stuff&#8230; anyway sorry to ramble but great post indeed!</p>
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